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Interest, Affinity, and Identity

maelstrommeridian:

thetadelta:

Interest, affinity, and identity are separate concepts that often get muddled when people discuss therians and otherkin, and I’d like to set the record straight.

Someone who is interested in an animal…

  • Thinks that animal is beautiful/fascinating/cool/etc
  • May know a lot about…

Just a few things, one of which is the fact that shifting can be completely absent even with Otherkin identity. The other would be the constantly reference with “usually spiritual” which really brushes off the psychological perspective side of the Otherkin community. The last would be the emphasis that many of us often do not find our kin-type or therio-type to be our favorite or a strong like for that matter. Other then that I feel that is a really good breakdown, and a way to help show the differences. This should be helpful for new comers to the community on whether or not identity is right for them.

I agree with you entirely, which is why those points are listed as “usually”, “likely”, or “may” and not as absolutes; I specifically used that terminology to emphasize that many things are optional. I didn’t intend to alienate any side of the community with my wording, just to show what is common. I’ve changed  “usually” to “often” in the original post; hopefully it communicates my point a bit better!

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Interest, Affinity, and Identity

poggle566:

thetadelta:

Interest, affinity, and identity are separate concepts that often get muddled when people discuss therians and otherkin, and I’d like to set the record straight…

You can’t just be an animal in a human body. What you are clearly seeing here is as you put it, “Identifying with” an animal. You are not a freakin’ snow leopard just because you think you act like one, because in all likelihood, you have nothing much in common with a snow leopard and if you do, you are pretty crazy.

Hello there! Therianthropy (identifying as an animal) is a private belief with a lot of complexity to it. My post oversimplifies nonhuman identity on purpose to highlight the differences between the concepts I listed. You’re welcome to think I’m delusional, but I definitely recommend reading up on therians (my resources page is a good place to start) before rushing to that conclusion.

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Interest, Affinity, and Identity

anal-biedz:

thetadelta:

Interest, affinity, and identity are separate concepts that often get muddled when people discuss therians and otherkin, and I’d like to set the record straight.

Someone who is interested in an animal…

  • Thinks that animal is beautiful/fascinating/cool/etc
  • May know a lot about that animal
  • May…

There is no fucking way this is real oh my god

#get help

Thank you, anal-biedz, for your expression of healthy skepticism. You made my night :’D

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Interest, Affinity, and Identity

Interest, affinity, and identity are separate concepts that often get muddled when people discuss therians and otherkin, and I’d like to set the record straight.

Someone who is interested in an animal…

  • Thinks that animal is beautiful/fascinating/cool/etc
  • May know a lot about that animal
  • May be considered obsessed with that animal
  • May feel peaceful/happy when they think about or are with that animal
  • Does not have a spiritual connection to that animal
  • Does not feel that they are that animal in any way
  • For example: I love pangolins. I think they’re the coolest things ever, know way more about them than is reasonable, and they’re featured in a lot of my artwork.

Someone who identifies with an animal…

  • Feels that they share mental/behavioral traits with that animal
  • Feels peaceful/happy when they think about or are with that animal
  • Is likely interested in that animal as described above
  • May feel a spiritual connection to that animal
  • May feel “at home” when they think about or are with that animal
  • Does not identify as that animal
  • For example: Someone who is introverted and grew up around cats might describe themselves as “part cat”.

Someone who has an affinity for an animal…

  • Feels a connection (often spiritual) to that animal
  • May have that animal as a totem or spirit guide
  • May occasionally (rarely) experience “shifts” as that animal
  • May feel “at home” when they think about or are with that animal
  • May identify with that animal as described above
  • May be interested in that animal as described above
  • Does not feel that they are that animal
  • For example: A lot of people feel drawn to horses in a way that makes it easy for them to communicate and empathize with them.

Someone who identifies as an animal…

  • Feels that they are that animal in some way
  • Feels a connection (often spiritual) to that animal
  • Likely feels “at home” when they think about or are with that animal
  • Likely experiences “shifts” as that animal (varying frequency)
  • May be interested in that animal as described above
  • For example: I identify as a snow leopard. I feel a tail and ears at all times and have prominent feline instincts.

Please note that while I’ve used the phrase “an animal” for ease of communication, this list can apply to anything.

If anyone has anything to add (or correct) please reply to this post or send me a message!

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Otherkin/Therian Survey

c3ltic-dr3am:

Hello! I am trying to learn more about otherkin and therian lifestyles, so I am posting a survey. If you would like to take the survey, please reblog or reply with your answers filled in. If you would like to take it privately, you can submit your answers to this blog. I will never post it. Thank you for participating in advance!

Do you identify as otherkin OR therian? Do you identify as both?

I identify as a therianthrope.

Which kin-type(s) do you identify as? (Ex. Catkin, demonkin)

I am a snow leopard suntherian with prominent barred owl and gyrfalcon theriotypes, as well.

What are your preferred pronouns?

Any; most people go with “she”.

What is your gender? Please include the sex you were designated at birth, if you are trans*, genderfluid, or nonbinary.

I am physically female, but identify as agender (though I will occasionally feel slightly male or slightly female).

What is your sexuality?

Gray-ish asexual

Do your parents know of your identity?

Not formally.

If not, why? If so, how did they react? Are they alright with it?

They (and pretty much everyone else I know) semi-jokingly tell people I’m a cat already. I don’t feel any need to elaborate for them, since the nuts and bolts of therianthropy are really a private, personal thing.

Have you been bullied for being otherkin/therian?

Unless you count hilarious anon messages, definitely not.

When did you realize that you were otherkin/therian?

I’ve always known, but didn’t come across the word “therian” or really delve into that part of myself until around age thirteen.

Since this realization, have you done anything (changing your diet to a non-human-friendly one, biting others, etc.) that is commonly seen as unhealthy by society? 

No, that’s ridiculous. Being a therian does not exempt anyone from basic manners or human biology. (Biting as a playful thing between therians or other consenting people is another story, though)

Do you feel like being otherkin/therian is a choice? Why or why not?

No. I see nonhuman-ness as an inherent mental/spiritual trait. I couldn’t change who I am even if I tried, and it’s the same with everyone else I know who identifies as nonhuman.

Do you feel like some people “decide” that they are otherkin just to be “cool”?

Yes, but they’ll grow out of it. Being a therian/otherkin isn’t “cool”, it’s just something you happen to be.

In your opinion, are there any kin-types or pronouns that aren’t legitimate? What are they, and why?

Unpopular-on-Tumblr opinion time!

Pronouns are used for gender, not species. “Nounself” and other otherkin-derived pronouns are ridiculous and offensive, and until recently anyone who used them was doing so in an attempt to troll the community. I live in hope that the trend is just a long-lasting 4Chan joke or something.

I do not see fictional (e.g, specific characters) or nonliving ‘kin-types as valid, though I generally don’t have anything against people who choose to identify as those things. These identities, like nounself pronouns, are a very recent thing in the otherkin community and were previously only used by trolls.

(Feel free to message me for a full explanation of my opinion on either of these points)

Lastly, did you find any questions in this survey to be prying, inaccurate, or worded strangely? Which ones, and how can I make them easier to answer?

Calling therians “(animal)-kin” is something I have never seen outside of Tumblr. This whole survey seems to be based on Tumblr, which I suppose makes sense since it’s on Tumblr, but most of the otherkin “community” here is basically a sewer and nothing like the otherkin/therian community overall.

EDIT:

To answer the new/edited questions:

Do you feel astral limbs?

I feel a tail and ears at all times and usually a pair of wings. I also get fur, paws, talons, and all sorts of other stuff on a regular basis.

Do you behave in a way that isn’t human, or do you eat differently because of your kintype?

I behave in a vaguely feline manner most of the time, just not in a way that’s immediately noticeable to most people. I walk on my toes, react differently to sounds/smells/movement/etc, and blink slowly when I greet people (I’m sure I have other odd mannerisms that I haven’t noticed, too). I also have a tendency to make small noises at people, chase or bat at things, and sit in really weird positions, but those are things I can consciously control in public.

The only meats I eat are chicken and turkey (because of taste preference), though I’d like to try venison and/or mutton sometime.

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Anonymous asked: Hey thank you so much for your answer yesterday. I'm trans and it has been challenging to read about otherkin and purported claims to oppressed trans status. Your answer put it into perspective.

I think you’re looking for shitrichcollegekidssay - I reblogged an ask from them, but I was not the one who answered it. Regardless, I’m glad it helped you!

If you have any otherkin/therian-related questions feel free to send them to me, though. That’s what this blog is for ~

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Anonymous asked: Is otherkin a joke? Or is it like furries claiming to be as oppressed as trans people?

shitrichcollegekidssay:

this is obviously an extremely (un)popular topic and this asker is obviously a troll but i’m going to answer this anyway

most otherkin (from what i’ve seen) tend to see their otherkin status as more of a religious/spiritual type thing instead of something akin to gender and i’ve literally never seen any otherkin claim that they are oppressed for being otherkin

i would bet you a lot of money that almost every blog that exists today that claims otherkin are uniquely oppressed for identifying themselves that way is a troll blog. also a lot of otherkin are trans!

additionally, many people who identify as otherkin are neuroatypical/neurodivergent teenagers and young adults, so making fun of otherkin frequently has (cognitive) ableist sentiment behind it

it’s a group of people who aren’t bothering anyone and it’s just shitty to mock them so aggressively for things that they aren’t even saying themselves

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Anonymous asked: Would you hav any advice for controlling urges? I hav urges 2 chase after birds + squirrels that I see on my travels but idk how to control them and I feel really silly when I go out in public and I chase after them :/ *distressed lynx noises*

I feel you :v

Controlling animal urges is often a matter of self-control, which is a more general personal issue, but there are a few things that can make the nagging part of you that goes “chase the thing! catch the thing!” around prey animals a bit quieter.

Getting enough exercise can help a lot. It’s hard to say ‘no’ to running around if you have a lot of pent-up energy. You don’t need to take up jogging or anything formal, just spend time walking or biking outside on a regular basis.

It’s also really helpful to take time to goof around in private. If you have any friends that are “in the know” and are comfortable with it, have them play with you with a ball or some string like they would with a domestic cat. It’s extremely silly and a lot of fun for both parties. Alternatively, you can hang dangly things to bat at or roll around on the floor with a pillow.

If you really, really need to chase something that’s alive, try finding a place with no people so you can flail around without worrying about drawing attention. If it’s fall where you live, you can also chase falling leaves - I’ve found that leaf-chasing is a lot more socially acceptable than animal-chasing, though it will still get you some looks.

In short, the best way to minimize inconvenient urges is to satisfy them preemptively in a controlled way. What that way is depends on the person, but I’m sure you’ll find something that works.

Good luck!

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Anonymous asked: Astral limbs are not phantom limbs and should never be referred to as such. Do not make that mistake. It is rude and incorrect.

susitar:

theangrylionshark:

theotherkinproject:

I am trying to be as careful as possible in my wording here, I assure you. If I have used Phantom Limb in the place of Astral limbs, I apologize. Can you point me as to where so I can fix this?

The term phantom limbs has been used in the otherkin community since forever (that being since the late 1960s). It isn’t until it came onto Tumblr, the home of the SJW, that it became an issue. Seriously, people, get off it.

Technically, what therians/otherkin experience is probably close to what is known as supernumerary phantom limbs (SPL).

I’m looking forward to neurological research, it could be exciting.

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